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	<pubDate>Tue, 29 May 2012 22:56:58 GMT</pubDate>
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		<title><![CDATA[What the hell happened?]]></title>
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		<description><![CDATA[<div>I have to admit to you that I am really pissed off this morning! I was thinking about what happened to Dave Barnes who writes the blog, <b><i style="color: rgb(51, 102, 255);">Dave "Dods" off to Mexico</i></b>  .</div><div><br></div><div>Dave is living in Weng and Francisco's Hill Top home in the Pueblo of Aticama. Dave was robbed about a week back. Three stinking, rotten crooks attacked Dave at Hill Top home and stole a bunch of his stuff.</div><div><br></div><div>The reason that I am pissed off, is because of the comments made on Dave's blog. Specifically, the comments made regarding how Dave should defend himself. Stuff like, "Spray bug juice in their face". Or, "Wasp spray".</div><div><br></div><div>What happened to us? When did we forget how to defend ourselves? My father knew how to defend himself. He carried a pistol. Our historical heroes knew how to defend themselves. George Washington knew!</div><div><br></div><div>But somehow, the notion that it is bad to defend ourselves has crept into today's society. And that notion has made us weak. Made us vulnerable. This world that we live in is a dangerous place. But there are those among us who would have us believe that to defend ourselves is wrong. To use guns to defend ourselves is bad.</div><div><br></div><div>I was robbed last year. I had no way to defend myself. I was lucky. The rotten crooks left without attacking me. I used to carry pistols. But the law down here in Mexico makes it dangerous for tourists to carry guns. Because of the mistaken notion that guns are dangerous. Citizens should not have guns.</div><div><br></div><div>But the crooks have guns. Because they do not obey these ignorant laws that prevent us from being able to defend ourselves against them.</div><div><br></div><div>Well, I am writing here, as clearly as I am able, that if you are a person who is against using guns to defend yourself against rotten, stinking criminals, then you are a person who is living far out of reality of today's very dangerous world!</div><div><br></div><div>Freedom and liberty are very fragile. Some may believe that freedom and liberty are only things they read about in history books. But the freedom and liberty of every one of us is at stake every single day. The battle for our freedom and liberty is being fought right here. On your own streets.</div><div><br></div><div>You give up your Freedom and Liberty when you give up your right to protect yourself! Get with it!</div><div><br></div> <p>Forum: <a href="http://forums.vagabonders-supreme.net/?forum=115068">Political & Religious</a>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 28 May 2012 16:43:09 GMT</pubDate>
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		<title><![CDATA[Evoluation of George's Travels]]></title>
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		<description><![CDATA[George, <br>First and foremost I must say "I love your blog and all the adventures you share with us about your life!"<br><br>Things change, as does life, and if George decides to stay in Mexico, so be it!&nbsp; He will have lots of new adventures about a Gringo living in a new land.&nbsp; Sure, I miss some of the local travel in the west but still one day hope to see and do many of the wonderful things he has shared with us all here on "the Net".&nbsp;&nbsp;<div><br>There will be many new challenges and adventures, perhaps slightly different than before, but still worth sharing and appreciating.<br>Jorge has for over 9 years traveled and experienced many things all over the west along with many journeys to other places like Israel and Guatemala.&nbsp; His writing style is easy to follow and he has effectively dealt with many issues that affect us all at one time or another.&nbsp; I appreciate all the things he has shared here with us and I'm not sure I could be so open with such issues that are somewhat personal.&nbsp;&nbsp; My hat's off to your my friend!<br><br>I've read lots of different Travel Blogs and although there are many fine ones out there, I still judge them all against the "Gold Standard" set by Tioga George.&nbsp; You set a very high standard for the others to follow.&nbsp; I have been following regularly for only 3 or 4 years now but really enjoy reading the older blogs as well as rereading some of my favorites.<br>&nbsp;<br>I for one, will continue to follow Jorge whatever he does as long as he continues to share it with us here.&nbsp; In my current wage slave situation, I can't do all the things he does just yet, but I will someday.&nbsp; <br><br><b>Way to go Jorge!&nbsp; Keep it up, whatever it may be!</b><br></div> <p>Forum: <a href="http://forums.vagabonders-supreme.net/?forum=113596">General Forum</a>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 23 May 2012 03:58:54 GMT</pubDate>
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		<title><![CDATA[15 Facts That Even Obama's Biggest Supporters Should Be Able To Admit Are True]]></title>
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		<description><![CDATA[<b style="font-family: Verdana, Geneva, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); "><a href="http://tinyurl.com/7b3y5fc" target="_blank">http://tinyurl.com/7b3y5fc</a></b>  <p>Forum: <a href="http://forums.vagabonders-supreme.net/?forum=115068">Political & Religious</a>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 19 May 2012 15:50:06 GMT</pubDate>
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		<title><![CDATA[To blog or not to blog.]]></title>
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		<description><![CDATA[My husband and I hope to start full-timing soon. Our condo is on the market and as soon as it sells, we are hitting the road.  Our area wasn't hit too badly by the housing crash and our home is priced to sell so we are hopeful this will happen soon. <br /><br>
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I've been thinking about starting a blog but when I read some of the comments George gets, and also the unwelcome visitors RV Sue got, it kind of scares me. I'm a very private, kind of shy person and a bit over-sensitive so I'm not sure I would like the attention a blog would bring. On the other hand, it would probably be a nice way to interact with people since I tend to keep my distance in real life. It's a conundrum.<br /><br>
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Most bloggers are extremely open on their blogs. They post their names and email address, pictures of themselves and their rigs. I guess that's what makes the blog interesting-you come to feel like you are friends with that person. That makes me nervous though, especially because it seems that almost every blog I've read has created some drama at some point and I hate drama. <br /><br>
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Is it possible to write an interesting blog without disclosing a lot of  personal information?  I would be open and honest about my thoughts and feelings, I think I would just keep it a bit more anonymous than most people. I think I would screen the comments, too and just delete the trollish ones. Why give negative people an outlet to spew their crap?  I've seen bloggers obsess for days over negative comments and that seems so counter-productive for this lifestyle.  <br /><br>
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There are so many advantages to blogging, though. You get to express your creativity through writing and photos, you have a wonderful record of your travels, you get to help lots of people by sharing your dream and your experiences and you get lots of great advice and suggestions from readers. I know most bloggers say that the pluses outweigh the negatives.<br /><br>
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I think that if I do decide to blog, I may just embrace my need for privacy and run with it.  I even thought about calling it The Unknown Blogger and putting up a picture with a bag over my head like the unknown comic from The Gong Show.  (just kidding) I've seen comments on some blogs from people who say they are shy, too and don't blog for that reason so I'm actually thinking there might be an audience for a blog from a shy fulltimer who isn't trying to meet a lot of people or be famous.<br /><br>
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So, what do you think?  Would you read a blog from a quirky, shy fulltimer who shared thoughts, feelings and experiences but didn't share a lot of personal info? Or should I just do a closed blog for family and friends and keep it light-kind of a "postcards from the road" with lots of pictures and not a lot of commentary. Or both? Feedback welcome. Don't be mean.:-) <p>Forum: <a href="http://forums.vagabonders-supreme.net/?forum=113596">General Forum</a>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 18 May 2012 07:28:27 GMT</pubDate>
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		<title><![CDATA[Ted Talks]]></title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Generally I've liked Ted Talks...This bothers me.<br><h6 class="uiStreamMessage" data-ft="{&quot;type&quot;:1,&quot;tn&quot;:&quot;K&quot;}"><span class="messageBody" data-ft="{&quot;type&quot;:3}">I can see why this is controversial.  Here is the original Ted Talk  <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&amp;v=bBx2Y5HhplI" target="_blank" rel="nofollow nofollow"><span><a href="http://www.youtube.com/" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/</a></span><wbr><span class="word_break"></span><span>watch?feature=player_embedded&amp;v</span><wbr><span class="word_break"></span>=bBx2Y5HhplI</a> and here is the news story. <br> <a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/05/17/nick-hanauer-ted-talk_n_1524435.html" target="_blank" rel="nofollow nofollow"><span><a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/" target="_blank">http://www.huffingtonpost.com/</a></span><wbr><span class="word_break"></span><span>2012/05/17/</span><wbr><span class="word_break"></span><span>nick-hanauer-ted-talk_n_1524435</span><wbr><span class="word_break"></span>.html</a></span></h6><br> <p>Forum: <a href="http://forums.vagabonders-supreme.net/?forum=115068">Political & Religious</a>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 17 May 2012 21:21:52 GMT</pubDate>
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		<title><![CDATA[Bongo Shipping or lack thereof]]></title>
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		<description><![CDATA[<br>I saw George's warning not to use Bongo, on his daily blog. I also saw a post from him outlining the warnings he had received from readers not to use this outfit. He used the outfit. Now he warns people not to use Bongo. George, do you not listen to advice given to you in good faith? If so, why not?<br> <p>Forum: <a href="http://forums.vagabonders-supreme.net/?forum=113596">General Forum</a>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 15 May 2012 18:34:36 GMT</pubDate>
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		<title><![CDATA[Friendship]]></title>
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		<description><![CDATA[I've written in my blog about a friendship of mine that has fallen out. This forum post is an invitation for readers to write about this interesting and challenging subject.<div><br></div><div>My experience has been that relationships/friendships most often turn sour when a person begins to perceive others have "feet of clay". Those feet of clay, or taking others for granted - is that not the death knell of friendship?</div><div><br></div><div>Why do people begin to take others for granted? Wives, husbands and friends. Haven't we all felt taken for granted?</div><div><br></div><div>George<br><div><br></div><div><br></div></div> <p>Forum: <a href="http://forums.vagabonders-supreme.net/?forum=113596">General Forum</a>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 12 May 2012 15:00:36 GMT</pubDate>
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		<title><![CDATA[The Mittster and Fischer]]></title>
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		<description><![CDATA[So he hires a dyed in the wool neocon, which should please the party, except that he is gay. &nbsp;Now this fool Fischer of the virulent AFA goes on the warpath and demands that he be kicked out of the campaign, and then takes credit for the campaign following his advice. &nbsp;And of course Mitt keeps quiet about it, only proving once again that he has absolutely no core convictions. &nbsp;He will do anything, say anything not to offend. &nbsp;Except that by trying not to offend, he offends damn near everybody. &nbsp;What a guy! <p>Forum: <a href="http://forums.vagabonders-supreme.net/?forum=115068">Political & Religious</a>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 03 May 2012 20:23:24 GMT</pubDate>
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		<title><![CDATA[Not as interesting any more is it?]]></title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Since we all had our Kum Bah Ya moment this forum has become quite boring.<div><br></div><div>I expected that would happen.</div> <p>Forum: <a href="http://forums.vagabonders-supreme.net/?forum=115068">Political & Religious</a>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Apr 2012 02:36:00 GMT</pubDate>
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		<title><![CDATA[Did the Stimulus Work?]]></title>
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		<description><![CDATA[I know its from a "liberal" site!&nbsp; <br><a href="http://www.americanprogress.org/issues/2012/02/stimulus_three_years.html" target="_blank">http://www.americanprogress.org/issues/2012/02/stimulus_three_years.html</a><br><br> <p>Forum: <a href="http://forums.vagabonders-supreme.net/?forum=115068">Political & Religious</a>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Apr 2012 23:15:27 GMT</pubDate>
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		<title><![CDATA[Dems Shoot Self in Foot]]></title>
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		<description><![CDATA[I love it when the Dems do stuff like this. &nbsp;GOC said it really well.<div><br></div><div><a href="http://www.grouchyoldcripple.com/archives/009225.html" target="_blank"><a href="http://www.grouchyoldcripple.com/archives/009225.html" target="_blank">http://www.grouchyoldcripple.com/archives/009225.html</a></a> </div> <p>Forum: <a href="http://forums.vagabonders-supreme.net/?forum=115068">Political & Religious</a>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Apr 2012 14:52:10 GMT</pubDate>
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		<title><![CDATA[What a world we are in.....]]></title>
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		<description><![CDATA[<h6 class="uiStreamMessage" data-ft="{&quot;type&quot;:1}">This was on the OCCUPYPGH site today....A vet mind you. <br><span class="messageBody" data-ft="{&quot;type&quot;:3}"></span></h6><h6 class="uiStreamMessage" data-ft="{&quot;type&quot;:1}"><span class="messageBody" data-ft="{&quot;type&quot;:3}">Today  I got my gas shut off.  Next week I'm getting my water and electric  shut off.  Next month, it will be 2 years since I first filed my  disability claim with the VA.  I joined the Iron Workers Apprenticeship  program and was eligible to start working on January 15.  I enrolled my  son in childcare, since I need to have childcare at a moments notice so I  can go to work if the apprentice coordinator calls me.  So far I have  spent over 3,000 dollars on childcare with no work.  I can't pay my dues  anymore, and I can't pay for my training materials.<br> <br> Tomorrow  I'm going to go to the Veteran Benefits Office and give them all of my  shut off notices and probably do some crying since I'm slowly losing  everything and I don't feel too great about it.  I'm hoping they tell me  something that will make me feel as if things might get better soon.  I  am preparing for them to either shrug and do nothing or say something  totally shitty, which is what usually happens.  If this happens, I'm  going to quickly put together a house demo at the home of the person in  charge of the VBA.  I'd like to know if A) people would be interested in  planning and/or attending said house demo and B) what's a convenient  time for people</span></h6> <p>Forum: <a href="http://forums.vagabonders-supreme.net/?forum=115068">Political & Religious</a>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Apr 2012 23:49:15 GMT</pubDate>
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		<title><![CDATA[It's A What??????]]></title>
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		<description><![CDATA[<blockquote style="color: #222222; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px;" type="cite">Guess what this is??<br> <br> <img alt="[]" src="https://mail.google.com/mail/?ui=2&amp;ik=9d0aac2d52&amp;view=att&amp;th=136a939761928127&amp;attid=0.1&amp;disp=emb&amp;realattid=18ad8f83217a80c1_0.1&amp;zw&amp;atsh=1" width="457" height="573">    <br> <br> <br> <br> <b><u>Hint:</u></b> The picture was taken in 1956.    <br> <br> Answer below...    <br> <div><br> </div><div><br> </div><div><br> </div><div align="center">It's a hard disk drive back in 1956... With <b>5 MB</b> of storage.      <br> In September 1956, IBM launched the 305 RAMAC,</div><div><br> </div><div align="center">The first 'SUPER' computer with a hard disk drive (HDD).</div><div><br> </div><div align="center">The HDD weighed <b>over a ton</b> and stored a 'whopping' <b>5 MB</b> of data.</div></blockquote><div style="text-align: center;">&nbsp;This is just the hard drive. The entire computer took up a room 30' by 50'.</div><div style="text-align: center;"><br> </div><div style="text-align: center;">1000 of these monsters were built and could be leased for $3200 per month or purchased for $160,000</div><div style="text-align: center;"><br> </div><div style="text-align: center;"><b>1957 Dollars!</b> (When a tradesperson earned +/- $1 per hour)</div><div><br> </div><div align="center">Do you appreciate your <b>32 GB</b> memory stick a little more now?</div> <p>Forum: <a href="http://forums.vagabonders-supreme.net/?forum=114623">Around the Campfire</a>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Apr 2012 02:09:20 GMT</pubDate>
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		<title><![CDATA[Stuff and Corporations]]></title>
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		<description><![CDATA[I am so mad.&nbsp; And I have no where to go with this anger.&nbsp; We bought a new sofa from a repeatable dealer.&nbsp; This is the second new sofa we have ever purchased.&nbsp; It started to unravel three months after we purchased.&nbsp; We had also bought a accident insurance policy.&nbsp; The service man appeared last week and declared that we have a problem...the fabric is literally unraveling as we watch.&nbsp; It has holes and bare spots all over it.&nbsp; We thought GOOD a local company cares...nope we get a replacement of two cushions and two foot things OF THE SAME FABRIC.&nbsp; Then we get the great honor of calling service again and reporting the head and side pieces doing the same thing.&nbsp; That will happen maybe in two weeks.&nbsp; The new pieces will appear in 4-6 weeks.&nbsp; The whole game (Agreed by the service department)&nbsp; is to get past the warranty of 1 year.&nbsp; Lew wants to simply throw it away and suck up the money lose.&nbsp; I want to make them pay...I want to hire a lawyer.&nbsp; <br><br>Actually I agree with Lew.&nbsp; It isn't worth the emotional energy.&nbsp; We will probably throw out the couch and suck up the loss by making our visitors sit on either the floor or our dining room chairs (which aren't really bad).&nbsp; It makes me so mad that I got suckered into this.&nbsp; I know than you can't trust any business to really back up what they advertise.&nbsp; Everyone is just after the buck. Bean Bags are the answer.&nbsp; Or maybe a motorhome without fancy furnishings.<br><br><br> <p>Forum: <a href="http://forums.vagabonders-supreme.net/?forum=115068">Political & Religious</a>
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		<title><![CDATA[7 Devastating Facts About the Obama Economy]]></title>
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		<description><![CDATA[<a href="http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/04/09/7-devastating-facts-about-the-obama-economy" target="_blank"><a href="http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/04/09/7-devastating-facts-about-the-obama-economy" target="_blank">http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/04/09/7-devastating-facts-about-the-obama-economy</a></a> <p>Forum: <a href="http://forums.vagabonders-supreme.net/?forum=115068">Political & Religious</a>
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